My dad's bigger than Carly's dad. Whoever she is.

By that standard, every single bit of criticism of a player or official on this board is a personal slight.

That isn't what I said.

Look, you knew exactly what championes meant - you just deflected it rather than address it.

The OP's post was childish and deliberately offensive, to Carley at least. It was in no way just criticism.

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I accept that there's a vague suggestion of Carley not being on the level rather than just not good enough, which I can't condone but doesn't  exactly accuse him of corruption, but that's about it...

So you did get it in the first place - it wasn't that "vague". 😁

I can understand both sides.

It’s understandable that Danny would be frustrated after losing the game on a poor decision and being denied the chance to salvage the situation from what probably felt like a perfectly good counter-ruck (but I think there was a genuine infringement earlier in the play).

But regardless of what he said to Carley, talking back to the ref risks a card of some colour, and the ref is entitled to explain his reasoning to the affected player.

I don’t think Carley handled the end of the game well - both the penalty against Andre and the one against Luke were incorrectly awarded as far as I can see (Andre was holding on - but Quins were impeded from clearing out because the tackler was on the wrong side), and had lost the confidence of the Quins players. But that doesn’t excuse Danny’s response, and I think Carley was actually quite generous in the number of chances he gave him to rectify the situation.

I can understand both sides.

It’s understandable that Danny would be frustrated after losing the game on a poor decision and being denied the chance to salvage the situation from what probably felt like a perfectly good counter-ruck (but I think there was a genuine infringement earlier in the play).

But regardless of what he said to Carley, talking back to the ref risks a card of some colour, and the ref is entitled to explain his reasoning to the affected player.

I don’t think Carley handled the end of the game well - both the penalty against Andre and the one against Luke were incorrectly awarded as far as I can see (Andre was holding on - but Quins were impeded from clearing out because the tackler was on the wrong side), and had lost the confidence of the Quins players. But that doesn’t excuse Danny’s response, and I think Carley was actually quite generous in the number of chances he gave him to rectify the situation.

Carley also didn't give a penalty to Saints for a fairly obvious holding on penalty a little while after the Wallace one. I genuinely think he'd lost control of things.

Sure. I don't remember you or others getting this upset at the thousands of other times that people have complained that a ref has got it in for us, mind.

I don't recall anyone suggesting on here that a ref has deliberately stitched us up that often but I've certainly complained about it on the odd occasion that I've noticed it.

And it absolutely hasn't happened thousands of times.

We're not Leicester. Yet.

But he was keeping his mouth shut as he walked off the field. Carley calling him back seems to raise the question of whether he wanted DC to say something? A bit a la Bill Grundy and the Sex Pistols, if you're of a certain age.

Should have kept his mouth shut before that; getting frustrated by Carley's mistakes is foreseeable - we do it too often. Learn, don't react and stay on the field.

Should have kept his mouth shut before that; getting frustrated by Carley's mistakes is foreseeable - we do it too often. Learn, don't react and stay on the field.

Should have' but didn't. Yellow card - no complaints. Called back whilst leaving the pitch to be asked if he'd prefer a red? Beggars belief.