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Director of Rugby, do we actually need one?
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My view is no we don't. Not having one avoids any one individual having too much influence on how the squad functions and performs. I get the feeling each week we are like a kind of melting pot of enthusiasm where everyone feels they are valued members.

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If Millard is content with the current arrangement, then continue as is.

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My concern is whether this is detracting from what Billy M's original remit to look after the the things like recruitment, backroom staff, support staff etc.

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Would be interesting to find out how it is really happening behind the scenes. Is Billy that involved?

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That is my thoughts FF. I think he also deals with stuff for the womens side.  The impression I got was he is happy short term.  Also be interesting how the current set up works when we hit a bad run of form

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Would be interesting to find out how it is really happening behind the scenes. Is Billy that involved?
Not with the rugby. All the medics, operations and admin of contracts

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Aren't they the things under his remit anyway?

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Yes, but he wasn't planned on being a part of the week to week coaching/selection process for the matchday team, so I'm concerned he may be spreading himself a little thin covering this on top of when he was originally brought in for.

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My question is  how much of the playing side is he actually needing to be involved in. Just how much of a distraction is it. I guess only Billy will be able to answer that

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I think that things are going well at the moment because the players and coaches are collectively creating and buying into the team's style and approach.  Jones, Flannery and Evans are excellent coaches and have the respect of the leadership team of the players. Well, all the players. The communication must be very open and honest, which helps to build clarity and trust.

Do we need a Head Coach or DOR? At this stage, no. But I would be happy to see one of them step up. Flannery seems to be the one with the drive to make it. He has embraced the club's culture but has a lot of experience away from Quins to give him the benefit of different ways of developing the team in the future.

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Putting titles aside, and at risk of over simplifying, there seems to be two questions to answer here; 1) does the club need another person in a leadership role in the Rugby department, 2) do we need someone to come in and lead the Coaching team.

We’re pretty much guessing at question 1, but indications from the club are pretty consistent that the answer is yes.
While we also don’t know the internal workings around question 2, what we’re seeing on the pitch is increasingly suggestive that the answer may be no.

So I think we may need someone credible enough to backstop the Coaching team (without being involved routinely in coaching) and who has the skill set to be the link bringing all the rugby aspects together, enabling us to keep a broad view across all the rugby programmes (Men’s, Women’s, Academy, Age Groups, Schools, Outreach etc).

Seems to me the club could do worse than dig out the phone number for one Mr T. Diprose.
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It takes a lot of effort and planning to play what's in front of you, and to play intuitively and spontaneously. So far so good, but we'll be worked out sooner or later and when we hit a dip in form we'll need authoritative and tough decision-making. This won't come from a player leadership group or from coaches who are best mates. We need a hardnosed DoR to make unpopular decisions and to shoulder the abuse from short-memoried fans.
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Well I am happy to see how far this approach can take us before reverting to established wisdom.
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Aha! Is right, this is all fine whilst things are going well. Once the form dips and we start losing games and coughing up ball, conceding off first phase again the cracks will appear and it'll all fall apart spectacularly.

A light touch DOR/Head Coach who slowly integrates themselves into things would still help the coaches feel empowered but you need that different voice sometimes. Seeing the wood for the trees and all that...

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- I'm with Le Tiss et al - old engineers' saying: "If it works, don't fix it".