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Thoughts?? Gonna happen.......very very sad!! :'(
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Rugby - most of ND1 and huge swathes of clubs below it. As for the premiership, probably Newcastle or even Gloucester and then it could be the end of half the league. We can’t have no fans for a year and expect anything to really keep going. This will lead to a European league I expect. Clubs in Europe are having fans back so I expect that will start to ramp up. We then see if the like off Quins, Tigers and Saracens may even relocate. Think that’s crazy? Is it more crazy than what is being imposed?

I can’t see the new season now starting. Are we seeing the end of millions of jobs, the economy and the future of so many young people?
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Shows it is more important than ever for 20/21 we donate our season tickets for every match we cannot attend
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It's all bonkers 🤬
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Sorry but I disagree. If I am unable to attend the matches for whole or part of the season then I would want a refund. I'm not in a position to just hand the money over for no return.
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Quote from: Samquin on Tuesday 22-Sep-2020, 22:35*
Sorry but I disagree. If I am unable to attend the matches for whole or part of the season then I would want a refund. I'm not in a position to just hand the money over for no return.
Health of the nation comes first , sad though it is .
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Don't be sorry Samquin, everyones financial situation is different so those that can will and the others have to do what is right for them.

Worrying days. The European League was going to happen anyway in the next 5 years so this may well bring it forward.
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Before handing money to the club, just think about it as the people who own the club have a lot more money than virtually all of us fans. If they cant afford to run the club they will have to sell, and until that happens think twice about what you do with the money.
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The people who own the club do have a lot more money than us. But they have also bankrolled the club's losses for over 20 years on the basis that eventually the club will become profitable. Fans showing their support - and lessening the increased financial burden - during a difficult time like this is likely to be important in their decision on whether to continue to support the club.

Also, the revenue that the club gets goes towards paying the salaries of the non-playing staff, who for the most part even less than many of us. The more money the club can make, the fewer of job cuts it will have to make.

As anyone involved in community rugby knows, the job cuts made by the RFU have been horrendous. Its revenues have fallen off a cliff. The fans who have been able to donate have helped Quins avoid that sort of drastic action.
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It is very worrying for all those who draw a wage through rugby. I hope this decision may be reversed sooner as I’m sure there are many ST like me who are weighing up the options. I agree that supporting the club is important and donated the remainder of last seasons ticket, not sure I’ll donate an entire seasons worth for no return.

I think Quins will survive it but at what cost I do not know.
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It'll be whichever club's owner decides they can't afford to/don't want to keep putting money into it at any level. Not sure about the premiership but plenty below.

The loss of rugby (and other sports clubs) across the country will also lead to a deterioration in public health as well.
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Quote from: A222Quin on Wednesday 23-Sep-2020, 09:47*
It'll be whichever club's owner decides they can't afford to/don't want to keep putting money into it at any level. Not sure about the premiership but plenty below.

The loss of rugby (and other sports clubs) across the country will also lead to a deterioration in public health as well.

An interesting point to consider.

If Harlequins were to fold what would those 14,000 people do on a Saturday afternoon in the Winter? Perhaps some of the younger ones would play rugby for their small local club? Perhaps some people would play golf, go to the gym, go for a walk? While some would no doubt stay at home and watch TV?

However many rugby clubs fold - and plenty have folded over the past 20 odd years - there will still be plenty left for those that either want to play rugby - at any level - or watch rugby - at any level.
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Quote from: Domestos on Wednesday 23-Sep-2020, 11:00*
If Harlequins were to fold what would those 14,000 people do on a Saturday afternoon in the Winter?

I will be being dragged round the local IKEA store with maybe the odd outing to Homebase or Squires Garden Centre to break the monotony.

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Quote from: Domestos on Wednesday 23-Sep-2020, 11:00*
An interesting point to consider.

If Harlequins were to fold what would those 14,000 people do on a Saturday afternoon in the Winter? Perhaps some of the younger ones would play rugby for their small local club? Perhaps some people would play golf, go to the gym, go for a walk? While some would no doubt stay at home and watch TV?

However many rugby clubs fold - and plenty have folded over the past 20 odd years - there will still be plenty left for those that either want to play rugby - at any level - or watch rugby - at any level.

I'd like to think so but that depends how many fold and in which areas. I'm less worried about the likes of Quins but more the smaller clubs which rely on clubhouse takings etc. 
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Quote from: Samquin on Tuesday 22-Sep-2020, 22:35*
Sorry but I disagree. If I am unable to attend the matches for whole or part of the season then I would want a refund. I'm not in a position to just hand the money over for no return.

The point of handing over the money is to support the club and keep it in existence surely? Seems to me that is a good enough return on your investment?
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