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Re: Harlequins State of Play
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For a start £35 being cheapest price is ridiculous that is football prices.
The losses are a smokescreen  when are people going to understand that its the Premiership rugby side of the business thats losing money (and every club does that). Its the companies associated with the club that make money.
This was a clever exercise last evening as it gave the money grabbing side of the club a chance to justify a huge hike in prices.
Does the idiot realise that peoples money will run out.

Look at Tuesday £21 the cheapest seat for an A Team game, he is in Cuckoo land wonder how many they sold.

I wish people would stop believing Quins Putin and start Challenging him.

One other point the £1 cup scheme why don't the club publish the number they get back after each game - I hope some of you see what I'm suggesting is going on !!!!!!

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No need to call him an Idiot or Quins Putin be cause you don't like his message.

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No need to call him an Idiot or Quins Putin be cause you don't like his message.

Don't believe his message not I don't like it, he tells us what he wants whether its the true accurate picture.

Do you not think charging £21 for an A team game is idiotic behaviour?
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Re: Harlequins State of Play
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For a start £35 being cheapest price is ridiculous that is football prices.
The losses are a smokescreen  when are people going to understand that its the Premiership rugby side of the business thats losing money (and every club does that). Its the companies associated with the club that make money.
This was a clever exercise last evening as it gave the money grabbing side of the club a chance to justify a huge hike in prices.
Does the idiot realise that peoples money will run out.

Look at Tuesday £21 the cheapest seat for an A Team game, he is in Cuckoo land wonder how many they sold.

I wish people would stop believing Quins Putin and start Challenging him.

One other point the £1 cup scheme why don't the club publish the number they get back after each game - I hope some of you see what I'm suggesting is going on !!!!!!

I'm not sure that I do see what your suggesting.

I was under the impression that the £1 cup refund went to the foundation charity - maybe you know more?

As for the Tuesday game - I wasn't expecting a full house. But, there were more people there than I expected. A lot of people in the south stand seemed to have printed tickets (i.e. not season ticket holders). So, I think that sales were okay.

Also, for me, I'm not sure what the football comparison is. I have little interest in the round ball game. I am not going to start going to watch foobball just because is is a similar cost.
I also think that there needs to be a comparison with lower leagues. This weekend's game at Ealing costs £20 to £25 for a ticket for a game that may be very one sided (although I hope it isn't). I also paid £20 to watch London Scottish earlier this season. It was a standing ticket; the view was obscured; there is no big screen; there is no firework/light display; no post match entertainment; etc.

So, it would be interesting if you could explain a little further.

Re: Harlequins State of Play
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I'm not sure that I do see what your suggesting.

I was under the impression that the £1 cup refund went to the foundation charity - maybe you know more?

As for the Tuesday game - I wasn't expecting a full house. But, there were more people there than I expected. A lot of people in the south stand seemed to have printed tickets (i.e. not season ticket holders). So, I think that sales were okay.

Also, for me, I'm not sure what the football comparison is. I have little interest in the round ball game. I am not going to start going to watch foobball just because is is a similar cost.
I also think that there needs to be a comparison with lower leagues. This weekend's game at Ealing costs £20 to £25 for a ticket for a game that may be very one sided (although I hope it isn't). I also paid £20 to watch London Scottish earlier this season. It was a standing ticket; the view was obscured; there is no big screen; there is no firework/light display; no post match entertainment; etc.

So, it would be interesting if you could explain a little further.

There wasn't a lot of people in the south stand
How many people go to championship games? Perhaps if they charged a sensible price it might be a lot more.
Premiership games of Football cost about £35 on the bottom of the price structure.

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£1m not much of a dent into £3m?! A third is a fairly sizeable dent, no?

It still leaves us making a loss of over £2m for the season so clearly isn't the reason we're making a loss (and £100 was a dramatic figure that they would never do). That's why I was interested what % of total revenue it accounts for. As others have said... the fact that all clubs in the league apart from Exeter are running at a loss shows what the problem is.

I fully expect the season ticket prices to go up but do think they need to be careful as it's easy selling tickets at the moment but might not be so easy if we don't continue to perform on the pitch. The ticket sales for the Montpellier game have proved that you can't just charge what you want and expect to fill the ground.
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Re: Harlequins State of Play
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Premiership games of Football cost about £35 on the bottom of the price structure.
The same as a Quins premiership game, is our product inferior so should be cheaper?

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Also, for me, I'm not sure what the football comparison is. I have little interest in the round ball game. I am not going to start going to watch foobball just because is is a similar cost.


You might not be interested in football but an awful lot of people are interested (a lot more than rugby) so Quins ticket prices do need to be comparable if we want to continue to attract supporters who aren't diehard Quins fans.

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I fully expect the season ticket prices to go up but do think they need to be careful as it's easy selling tickets at the moment but might not be so easy if we don't continue to perform on the pitch. The ticket sales for the Montpellier game have proved that you can't just charge what you want and expect to fill the ground.
Agree re Montpellier game and there may be a few reasons.
1 - Price of tickets for members.
2 - Easter weekend
3 - It could be a dead rubber based on the result from previous week.

Re: Harlequins State of Play
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There wasn't a lot of people in the south stand
How many people go to championship games? Perhaps if they charged a sensible price it might be a lot more.
Premiership games of Football cost about £35 on the bottom of the price structure.


I saw that there were 5000 people at the game. This exceeded my expectation. I wasn't expecting a full house.

I think that the amount they are charging for championship games is probably about right. What I do think is that they need to improve the product they are selling. I support a Pro-D2 club in France. The product is more akin to a Premiership game. At Championship games I have been to - there is no kids entertainment/mascots, no band, no flag waving, etc. Richmond/London Scottish doesn't even have a big screen to watch replays.

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The same as a Quins premiership game, is our product inferior so should be cheaper?

Its not inferior but its less popular. Do Tv companies pay the same No, Do Shirt Sponsors pay the same No, Is Advertising the same No  - For Soccer you pay a lot more. However Fans are expected to pay the same or more in some instances.

 

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Ticketing revenue is almost (but not totally) irrelevant to premiership football clubs so it's not really a like for like comparison.

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One other point the £1 cup scheme why don't the club publish the number they get back after each game - I hope some of you see what I'm suggesting is going on !!!!!!

I'm not sure that I do see what your suggesting.
I was under the impression that the £1 cup refund went to the foundation charity - maybe you know more?

I don't really understand what you are suggesting here either - is this about how many are donated to the foundation and you would like to know how many cups are donated and therefore the money given to the foundation?
I am sure I have seen it mentioned on a couple of occasions how much money was received this way but unable to find at the moment.




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Ticketing revenue is almost (but not totally) irrelevant to premiership football clubs so it's not really a like for like comparison.

That is not true, it might be to 1 or 2 clubs but for most, match day revenue is an essential for the business.

Re: Harlequins State of Play
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Its not inferior but its less popular. Do Tv companies pay the same No, Do Shirt Sponsors pay the same No, Is Advertising the same No  - For Soccer you pay a lot more. However Fans are expected to pay the same or more in some instances.
Less popular yet due to our success last season we have sold out every home Premiership game so suggests the match day ticket price is ok - personally I think it is higher than it should/could be, but that doesn't mean it is wrong.
Your TV and Sponsorship comparison is not the same, this does come down to the size of the target audience. Lots more people watch football globally so TV revenues and sponsorship is going to be higher.
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