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Any tips? I'm looking for somewhere to take a group and watch the Ireland game.

I'm at bit out of touch. Didn't know Stokes & Moncrieff had changed but that's on my list of possibles...

Twickenham Fine Ales pre game obviously
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Quote from: Wine Prone Cowboy on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 12:42*
Any tips? I'm looking for somewhere to take a group and watch the Ireland game.

I'm at bit out of touch. Didn't know Stokes & Moncrieff had changed but that's on my list of possibles...

Twickenham Fine Ales pre game obviously

Sussex have a marquee up to show the England games, they may well therefore show the Ireland match. Blucher has screens and may not be as rammed as normal post Japan coz assume lots of the crowd won't be England regulars. The Albert will definitely be showing it because the boss is Irish. Don't know about in town coz usually stick up my end (as it were) to avoid the crowds.

On a personal note -- the death of every pub with ludicrous hipster names like Stokes and Moncrieff must be celebrated enthusiastically. It seemed to be an utterly soulless place that was permanently empty except when it was there for "entertaining clients at the rugby". Just a personal view obvs.
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Quote from: Blucherquin on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 13:18*
Sussex have a marquee up to show the England games, they may well therefore show the Ireland match. Blucher has screens and may not be as rammed as normal post Japan coz assume lots of the crowd won't be England regulars. The Albert will definitely be showing it because the boss is Irish. Don't know about in town coz usually stick up my end (as it were) to avoid the crowds.



The bouncers at The Sussex won't let you in unless you have string-back driving gloves and a tweed jacket. (paging Mr Blucher quin)

The Blucher is O.K. Nice pint of London Pride.

Your best bet is The William Webb Ellis in town, almost opposite the police station. Good food and well kept reasonably priced ales.
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If you go to the Sussex - avoid the Gin - it can give you a hangover.

We went there after visiting the Webb Ellis, Three Kings and Taste of Raj after having a few beers before, during and after the Eng v SA match and we didn't feel too chipper on the Sunday.

But, I agree with BQ - stick to the Green.  Far less crowded on match days.  Good options too - Prince of Albert/Wales/Sussex and Blucher all within walking and 3 curry houses in between.
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I genuinely don't get the tweedy comments about the Sussex -- not that I'm not fond of a "pigs snouts old snot peculiar" ale cliche and taking the mick -- but ale in the Sussex is a hipster thing not an old man thing and the staff are all emos with tonnes of tattoos and piercings and nail varnish (but not the girls) and they play all their music on vinyl because that's what you do if you're 20.

It's generally full of drunk old musicians and students.

Also - the Webb Ellis will be absolutely rammed from front to back and has bouncers outside. You will need shoplifted clothing from JD Sports and a knife to get in as well.
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Quote from: Blucherquin on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 13:18*

On a personal note -- the death of every pub with ludicrous hipster names like Stokes and Moncrieff must be celebrated enthusiastically.

Name a pub after a Prussian war hero, that’s fine.

Name it after the captains of the teams in the first rugby international and it’s hipster.

But which name has more of a link to the local area?



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The Blucher opened in 1815 - Prince Blucher was a pretty big deal around about that year.  Probably more so than Webb Ellis.  He was only 9 years old at the time and may not even have started at Rugby School.
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Quote from: Yareet on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 14:42*
Name a pub after a Prussian war hero, that’s fine.

Name it after the captains of the teams in the first rugby international and it’s hipster.

But which name has more of a link to the local area?

Sadly you've kicked this one straight into touch.

Yes I take the point on where the names come from, hadn't realised - the pub however was terrible, soulless and depressing and existed solely to host parties of people going to England internationals -- it was otherwise totally empty. A shame, because there's been a pub there since the 1700s.
Think Simon Shaw behind the equally unappealing M Bar that's opened opposite Twickenham station.

The Blucher, yes, is named after the Prussian general who helped Wellington win the Battle of Waterloo. I believe it's the only pub in the UK with the name. But either way it's been there since 1815 and has always been called that. So actually it's got more of a "link to the local area" than rugby, HQ, the Stoop or Mr Webb Ellis.

Oh and The Sussex has been called The Sussex since 1837.

Don't thank me - thank the Twickenham museum.
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What does Waterloo have to do with the local area? Unless you mean you can hop on a train there in about 25 mins from Twickers?
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Quote from: RodneyRegis on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 15:34*
What does Waterloo have to do with the local area? Unless you mean you can hop on a train there in about 25 mins from Twickers?

Mate, the pub has been there since 1815.

Rugby School football didn't start to be played even in Rugby School alone until the mid 1820s.

The first rugby at Twickenham was 1909.

Not sure you can claim things aren't local if they're not named after something that wasn't associated with the area until 100 years after they were built.

And anyway the poster said it had "more of a link" to the local area. Not "to do with". Pretty sure being a local pub in a local area for more than 200 years gives you pretty good links.

I dont even bloody drink there.
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But which name has more of a link to the local area?

Stokes & Moncrief
Prince Blucher

Not which pub has more of a link.

You're just flailing because you thought S&M were random names to sound a bit zany.
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Ok I’m flailing Rodney, whatever makes you happy.

Didn’t know the names - but absolutely happy to admit I made an bottom of myself on that. Pub was still utterly terrible.

But when does a pubs name denote how relevant it is to an area?

Maybe the Kings Arms should only be used by royalty or the Nags head only by horses.

Webb Ellis = relevant name but only since the invention of rugby so how does that work?. Twickenham has been here a lot longer than rugby.

S&M = relevant name (didn’t know) but wouldn’t have been before 1906. Pub there since 1715 so was it not relevant before?

Blucher = was a massive hero to the British at the time the pub was named, so I’m not sure how it fits your criteria since rugby didn’t exist for 100 years. But not relevant to rugby no.

Likewise Sussex, White Swan, Fox

So are they less relevant because they aren’t called after rugby? They were all there before anyone invented rugby and way before it came to Twickenham.
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Went to the Prince Albert after last weeks game room inside and out with big screens showing the rugby
And if you want to walk a little further the Prince of Wales should have it on big screen and will have a bit of room for a larger group
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Thanks for all the suggestions. Think we'll head for the options on the green
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Quote from: Blucherquin on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 14:12*
I genuinely don't get the tweedy comments about the Sussex -- not that I'm not fond of a "pigs snouts old snot peculiar" ale cliche and taking the mick -- but ale in the Sussex is a hipster thing not an old man thing and the staff are all emos with tonnes of tattoos and piercings and nail varnish (but not the girls) and they play all their music on vinyl because that's what you do if you're 20.

It's generally full of drunk old musicians and students.

Also - the Webb Ellis will be absolutely rammed from front to back and has bouncers outside. You will need shoplifted clothing from JD Sports and a knife to get in as well.

What an amusing pile of horse dung this review of the Sussex is. It is comfortably the best pub in Twickenham for ale and cider as well as not being massively overpriced like the Albert and Blucher. Used to be hard to get served as it was so busy, but they’ve sorted that with a small outside bar. Not sure what the problem with the vinyl is, but it’s an eclectic selection.

As SiB says, the Prince of Wales is another excellent option. More roomy as it’s a short walk out of town, but AJ’s Kitchen has the best food around. Also up that way and worth a visit is The Rifleman on Fourth Cross Road. Good beer and the rugby will take precedence over football (they send football viewers round the corner to the PoW).
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