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Prize Money for Heineken & Challenge Cup
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My daughters partner is a Barff Fan ( I know, I know..I'm surrounded by the beggars over here..) and we were discussing the merits of even bothering to go for the HC as you probably get smashed by French and Irish teams and go out at the Group Stage thus missing out on lucrative ko fixtures. So I have tried to find details of the money a Club might earn for taking part in the 2 competitions but as my Techy Butler is on permanent Gardening Leave ( he is hiding in the Garden Sheds) I am having some difficulty.

Does anyone know any details?

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I think it's the associated revenue boosts rather than direct prize money that clubs enjoy as part of the Big Boys Cup. By being in the upper comp, you are more likely to get travelling fans & occasional supporters to the ground (Clermont are a bigger draw than Calvasiano!). You also get better exposure as the games are played in the better timeslots (more TV eyes will watch Quins v Leinster on a Sat afternoon than Quins vs Timasoara on a Thursday evening). That means clubs can lure better sponsors mid to long term to help shore up their finances that way.
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All very good points, thanks Fred. Does anybody know what the basic rewards are for achieving HC status before the advertising/ticket sales etc ? I assume it basically comes out of divvying up the TV money?

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From chatting to some of the Quins staff about it, the main monetary value to the club is in the home fixtures. Having a tough or at least interesting draw in the Champions Cup pretty much guarantees sell out home matches, as does a home QF, and that's of huge value to the club. I don't think prize money really enters into it unless you have a serious chance of winning the thing - and even then I suspect the impact of having a recent trophy on season ticket sales and home attendance outweighs the value of the prize itself.

A good starting point for understanding clubs' economic priorities is that home games are the big determinant of profit and loss. Things like TV and sponsorship revenue are fairly fixed in any given year, and spend at the ground is the main thing the club can influence during the course of the season. Anything that helps to fill the seats is great, and it also explains the weird design of things like the Anglo Welsh and Premiership cups - things like playing a different pool rather than within a group are designed to ensure that everyone gets enough home games without using up too many match dates.

The year we had a really easy champions cup group, the club went all out to get a home quarter as it was the only way to get enough revenue out of the competition. And we ended up hosting Munster, who tonked us, but it was a tonking in a stadium full of Irishmen who spent handsomely on booze.

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And we ended up hosting Munster, who tonked us, but it was a tonking in a stadium full of Irishmen who spent handsomely on booze.

That they did, a few with complete (perhaps unintended) arrogance - "You just have to accept that Munster are a different class than 'Quins" said one fan to me after the game in a packed out Kings bar...

It may have been true, but...

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I think it's the associated revenue boosts rather than direct prize money that clubs enjoy as part of the Big Boys Cup. By being in the upper comp, you are more likely to get travelling fans & occasional supporters to the ground (Clermont are a bigger draw than Calvasiano!). You also get better exposure as the games are played in the better timeslots (more TV eyes will watch Quins v Leinster on a Sat afternoon than Quins vs Timasoara on a Thursday evening). That means clubs can lure better sponsors mid to long term to help shore up their finances that way.

Agreed. When the incident that shall not be mentioned took place I recall some discussion about how the Club would lose significant revenue if ejected from Europe.