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Right at the end of this week’s pod, Care said that Sinckler admitted that he was nowhere near the line for the last try and didn’t score. When you think of how a lot of players have said they didn’t score in recent weeks when held up over the line, this is incredibly disappointing to hear Sinckler admitted this post game, especially as a ex-Quin. I’m also wondering how and why the AR was so convinced he saw the ball down over the line....

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The AR on that side was baffling throughout the game. That "taken out" call on Brown was one of the weirdest things I'd seen for a while.
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(I was considering going with "well, that's typical of how mentally weak Quins are that they conceded a try that wasn't even on the line" but I figured it would sound petty :) )

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The Premiership needs to bring in the captain's challenge they're trying in Super Rugby.

Even if the cameras showed nothing useful for that try it would have made it an awful lot more palatable to see it be fully checked. I know the TMO had a look in the background, but that's not the same as a full review.
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The AR on that side was baffling throughout the game. That "taken out" call on Brown was one of the weirdest things I'd seen for a while.

That wasn't even remotely close was it? Mike was stood about a yard in touch when he caught it. Dreadful decision.
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Very poor gamesmanship 
To admit it publicly surely raises the question of whether the result should be reversed?
Bringing the game into disrepute etc

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No wonder he had that big grin on his face as he walked back.

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While its frustrating I don't blame a player for not telling the ref they didn't ground the ball. It's the job of Ref, ARs and TMO and as has been stated that AR was pretty useless all game.


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Very poor gamesmanship 
To admit it publicly surely raises the question of whether the result should be reversed?
Bringing the game into disrepute etc

Nah. Also he didn't admit it publicly, he admitted it to a mate who then announced it.

It's done, it's over, we wuz robbed, no blame attached to Sinckler. It's like walking in cricket - great if you do it, but it's up to the umpire to make the decision. Seen plenty of tries scored by teams I support when the player actually lost control of the ball, etc.

The AR obviously and clearly lied about seeing the grounding and given his other errors I suspect he might quietly get binned off for a while, or be asked to do some more training. That's all that'll happen, and it's all that should happen.
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"We've got a clear try from the touch judge" said the ref.  Why do they insist on saying things are clear when they are not?  It undermines their credibility so much more than if they said that they believe or think it's a try.

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The TMO was trying to check it but the ref wasn't having any of it. Poor all round. No respect for Sinckler anymore.
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Yes, should have admitted it, Bris had Pen advantage anyway.

Also, think it makes Care look like a bit of weasel sharing something that was probably said in confidence.

I don't think that either of them come out of it particularly well tbh.
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Nah. Also he didn't admit it publicly, he admitted it to a mate who then announced it.

It's done, it's over, we wuz robbed, no blame attached to Sinckler. It's like walking in cricket - great if you do it, but it's up to the umpire to make the decision. Seen plenty of tries scored by teams I support when the player actually lost control of the ball, etc.

The AR obviously and clearly lied about seeing the grounding and given his other errors I suspect he might quietly get binned off for a while, or be asked to do some more training. That's all that'll happen, and it's all that should happen.

Maybe the AR simply made a mistake rather than lied. People do make mistakes.

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Maybe the AR simply made a mistake rather than lied. People do make mistakes.

Like the time the assistant ref said he clearly say Ashton punch Tuilagi, when he'd seen no such thing. Obviously they make mistakes, but seems odd to say you're clear about something when you're clearly wrong, and when it is important. Especially when they then miss obvious stuff throughout the game, such as offside at kick chase re-starts and then say nothing about it

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Like the time the assistant ref said he clearly say Ashton punch Tuilagi, when he'd seen no such thing. Obviously they make mistakes, but seems odd to say you're clear about something when you're clearly wrong, and when it is important. Especially when they then miss obvious stuff throughout the game, such as offside at kick chase re-starts and then say nothing about it

You may be right T-Bone but in this instance without the aid of a confession from the AR or the ability to read his mind we will never know if he "obviously and clearly lied". I prefer not to make negative assumptions about the honesty and integrity of match officials but that's just my view.