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honkytonk

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Smith off??
« on: Friday 29-Jun-2018, 12:01* »
Fissler has said that Smith could exercise his release clause due to the change of coach. Bath and Sale interested. Would seem odd

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deadlyfrom5yardsout

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29-Jun-2018, 12:03* »
I'd be very surprised if he moved, even for more money.

T-Bone

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29-Jun-2018, 12:04* »
Seems very odd. To renew when we're playing dreadfully then leave with a new set up

BedfordshireBoy

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29-Jun-2018, 12:13* »
There are loads of things that Smith could do so Fissler is quite right in what he says, just trying to generate a story.

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29-Jun-2018, 12:27* »
Is there anyone Bath and Sale arenít interested in? Their names always crop up on Fisslerís articles. Think this is fishing in what has been a quietish off season.

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29-Jun-2018, 12:49* »
Well of course he's technically entitled to exercise a change of coach clause because there's been a change of coach. And of course some teams are sniffing around him.

I'd be surprised if he moved, though - I would have thought that working with Nick Evans would have been the primary draw for staying. While JK is a decent bloke, his technical strengths lie with fatter lads than Marcus.

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29-Jun-2018, 13:33* »
I could win the lottery this weekend.

Now ex-Navyquin

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29-Jun-2018, 14:32* »
Fissler is hit and miss like any journalist who talks mainly about transfer rumours although slightly better than rugby inside line. As discussed about I really can't see why Smith would want to leave, I can't see what Bath and Sale can offer him that Quins cannot.

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29-Jun-2018, 14:57* »
So because he has a clause in his contract, he might look to use it. What a total non story.

The bigger question is when does that clause become invalid, im assuming he cant turn round in 2020 and say you changed coach 2 years ago i want to invoke my clause now.

I would also question why he would want to go to bath and potentially be behind both Preistland and Burns in the pecking order.

As for Sale i think that would be a silly move, settled down south, with family around him or move to Sale and have nobody.

Roaming Quin

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 01-Jul-2018, 20:24* »
Is there any more on the supposed move?  I would have thought heíd like the challenge especially as PG will have close links to EJ.

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #10 on: Monday 02-Jul-2018, 14:26* »
My information is that the clause is absolutely there and Bath and Wasps are the clubs showing interest.

I don't think he'll leave, but why on God's earth are we allowing these clauses? And they're only ever inserted if they are intended to be used. To think otherwise is naive.

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #11 on: Monday 02-Jul-2018, 15:10* »

.....but why on God's earth are we allowing these clauses? And they're only ever inserted if they are intended to be used. To think otherwise is naive.

Probably because 'we' did'nt have a choice. At the time JK was probably between a rock and a hard place as clubs were probably willing to buy him out of his academy contract and pay him loads as well. From a players perspective if you have a whip hand I'd be looking to use it.

And sorry I don't agree with your last sentance. I would imagine any player, if given the option/chance would have that clause in his contract whether he wanted to exercise it or not just to make his contract as flexible as possible.

FWIW I don't think he'll go either, he's obviously on a good wage now and seems level headed enough to realise that he's still work in progress with people around him who know that. If he moved on my guess is that his new employers would'nt give him much 'slack' which he probably knows as well

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02-Jul-2018, 17:06* »
As a talented young player he's always going to have offers from other clubs, contract or no contract.   If we want him to stay at Harlequins we've got to make it attractive financially and from a sporting perspective.

honkytonk

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #13 on: Monday 02-Jul-2018, 17:43* »
I can imagine you have these clauses if not you might find the player not wanting to sign.  Think I  am right in saying it was a "long term" deal?? if so the player is going to want protection.  Lets say we change coach early in the deal and bring in someone that does not work for him, does he then sit out the rest of his deal unhappy or  he activates the clause and moves.  Or do Quins turn around and say "no, we cannot put a clause in like that" Smith replies "ok, thanks but no thanks"  all hypothetical of course but sounds reasonable to me.

Dont see how you can blame the club for that

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Re: Smith off??
« Reply #14 on: Monday 02-Jul-2018, 17:54* »
As a talented young player he's always going to have offers from other clubs, contract or no contract.   If we want him to stay at Harlequins we've got to make it attractive financially and from a sporting perspective.

I thought he was given a 6 figure salary. For a 19 year old he was offered a very attractive package which he obviously accepted. Will other clubs try and up the ante?  Sad day for bringing on young talent if clubs are tryng to break contracts  and/or outbidding each other so early in their careers.

 

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