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You can't disagree with this. It's not an opinion. It's fact.

For what it's worth I think there was probably separation, and no doubt cadan should neve have given the officials an option, but from the replays they saw it should have stood.

Yes, I can't argue with that or what JG said. I reacted at the time to watching, in slow motion, someone quite clearly dropping the ball.

Incidentally, where is this separation business defined? I can't find it in the laws or clarifications.

It does say the player should be holding the ball, in the laws. In which case I wouldn't suggest asking Cadan to hold a pint of beer, let alone a newborn child.
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Yes, I can't argue with that or what JG said. I reacted at the time to watching, in slow motion, someone quite clearly dropping the ball.

Incidentally, where is this separation business defined? I can't find it in the laws or clarifications.

It does say the player should be holding the ball, in the laws. In which case I wouldn't suggest asking Cadan to hold a pint of beer, let alone a newborn child.


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The lineout is an interesting one. Riley lost first lineout on pitch. The issue is less about the throwing and more the jumpers, movement and athleticism.

Quins have typically always had one big lock (non jumper - front man) so the oppo know they don’t need to worry. On Friday we only had Hammond and Lewies as the major options - Dommers is rarely used as well. Evans is a non jumper and thus another issue! 

Thus easy to defend/attack. When Lamb, Kenningham and Chisholm play our lineout is so much better. I think CCS we old be a good lineout option.

If we had 4 or even 3 good middle/back jumpers we would be much better at lineout.

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It doesn't need to be in the laws. It's just a way of explaining what constitutes a knock on, which is essentially common sense.

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That's just a WB explanation. There must be a clarification or something which mentions this gap between the laws and how refs are judging it.

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You want clarification on whether you are allowed to drop the ball?
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You want clarification on whether you are allowed to drop the ball?

No, obviously not. I want to know where holding the ball morphed into having at least a fingertip touching it until it hits the ground. There must have been something.

I've seen an earlier clip from 5 or 6 years ago with WB and Ben Kay; Kay says he would like the law to be like that. Well at some point since, his wish was granted.

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Most of the interpretations and clarifications of the laws - which are by definition far more complex than the basic laws - don't appear to be online. I figured Wayne Barnes talking about it would be proof enough.

Grounding the ball in the in-goal area to score a try sounds simple. So how come it is open to so many interpretations, and why is it so often controversial
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