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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Brian Moore
« Last post by T-Bone on Yesterday at 01:09 pm »
Yep, agree with others. Not his finest article and not a very compelling argument. A few clubs have gone bust despite the cap, so let's lift it and let several more go bust and just have a small handful of clubs able to complete and risk alienating a lot of the existing fanbase. Bizarre really
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Brian Moore
« Last post by Harleking on Yesterday at 12:06 pm »
I normally quite rate Brian Moore but this article strikes me as one of the least thought through things I have seen for a while. The premise seems be that because the salary cap hasn't been entirely effective in relation to one of its aims- preventing clubs from going out of business- it should therefore be regarded as a total failure and scrapped entirely. The fact that it has actually created a pretty much level playing field with a different winner every year since sarries started actually sticking to it appears to be lost on him.

I can tolerate turning up to watch a quins team which are underperforming, but if the league gets to a point where we are structurally pretty much unable to even compete then i probably wont. I know that football gets away with it, but the level of tribalism there is on a different level.
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Team For Gloucester
« Last post by MaidstoneQuin on Yesterday at 11:42 am »
This would be brainless.
It would trigger Survivor Syndrome and the remaining guys would likely be even less motivated and the high performers would use the first opportunity to get out too.
It would take many, many years to start to recover and in all reality, it would probably spell the end of the club.

Either way the damage that's set in at the club is going to take at least several seasons. The wider squad isn't good enough, but that's just my opinion, and we've given too many extensions in the past to players who've simply not added much and considering we are spending up to the cap should now look at other options, coupled with the coaching.
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Academy v Japan u19
« Last post by never sleep on Yesterday at 11:39 am »
I think that the final score is wrong.
I think that it was 31-45 to Japan.
I don't think that they added the last try to the scoreboard - only the conversion.
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Team For Gloucester
« Last post by never sleep on Yesterday at 11:37 am »
Everyones position needs to be reviewed, and realistically i think 50% of the squad are in the category of not being either value for money with an extension, or not up for a fight of the prem. Sounds drastic, but we've gone past the point of just a few changes needed now

This would be brainless.
It would trigger Survivor Syndrome and the remaining guys would likely be even less motivated and the high performers would use the first opportunity to get out too.
It would take many, many years to start to recover and in all reality, it would probably spell the end of the club.
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Team For Gloucester
« Last post by MaidstoneQuin on Yesterday at 11:23 am »
Your post suggests that you are saying that we should bin off most of the current players.
I.e. - You say that the players have checked out and a massive clear out is needed.
You don't mention the coaches.

Everyones position needs to be reviewed, and realistically i think 50% of the squad are in the category of not being either value for money with an extension, or not up for a fight of the prem. Sounds drastic, but we've gone past the point of just a few changes needed now
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Team For Gloucester
« Last post by never sleep on Yesterday at 11:20 am »
I didnt say all the staff, but its clear a freshen up is needed. NEV/Jones etc probably could do with a new challenge

Your post suggests that you are saying that we should bin off most of the current players.
I.e. - You say that the players have checked out and a massive clear out is needed.
You don't mention the coaches.
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Brian Moore
« Last post by Rugbycat on Yesterday at 11:17 am »
There is already a home grown player credit but increasing that would be a good idea, rather than just a blanket increase.

THE LEVEL OF THE SALARY CAP

For the 2025-26 Salary Cap Year, the level of the Salary Cap is £6,400,000 with the following credits and exclusions, which means that Clubs can spend at least £7.8m plus an Excluded Player Salary:

Home Grown Player Credits totalling £600,000 (up to £50,000 per player) – designed to incentivise Clubs to retain home grown talent;
EPS/International Player Credits totalling £400,000 (up to £80,000 per player) – to cover player absence during international periods;
Injured Player Credits totalling £400,000 – to allow replacement players to cover for long term injuries;
One Excluded Player – whose entire salary is excluded from the Salary Cap;
Unlimited education fund for players.
HOW DOES THE SALARY CAP WORK?

In professional sports, a Salary Cap is an agreement or rule that places a limit on the amount of money that a team can spend on player salaries – in PREM Rugby it is a total squad spend and not a restriction upon individual Salaries.
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Brian Moore
« Last post by MaidstoneQuin on Yesterday at 11:09 am »
Not sure what major changes to make, but I would like to see clubs benefiting more from promoting from within. Perhaps some kind of increase on the cap per registered squad players at the start of the season who've come through the academy system at the same club. Would encourage to develop the youth, rather than just blanket signing anyone, and then allow clubs to really get an extra one or two class players they might not be able to get if already spending up to the cap

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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Team For Gloucester
« Last post by MaidstoneQuin on Yesterday at 10:54 am »
When most of the staff in any business have checked out and are not motivated, the solution isn't to fire all the staff. It's to replace the managers.

I didnt say all the staff, but its clear a freshen up is needed. NEV/Jones etc probably could do with a new challenge
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