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Seems like an overreaction to a virus that is according to statistics less dangerous than seasonal flu.
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Frankly theres a massive over-reaction. Yes its contagious but no more lethal to the young or elderly than the flu.

Still, the Chinese government will be happy of the effect of their lab created soon to be pandemic to wipe trillions off the global economy.
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Quote from: Rocker on Monday 02-Mar-2020, 12:59*
Seems like an overreaction to a virus that is according to statistics less dangerous than seasonal flu.

In your chicken lickin world of falling skies, is the earth flat too? Are Spurs top of the league? Is the cheque in the post? Do bears use the lavatories with the seat down or up? Is the Pope a Jain?
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Quote from: MaidstoneQuin on Monday 02-Mar-2020, 13:23*
Still, the Chinese government will be happy of the effect of their lab created soon to be pandemic to wipe trillions off the global economy.

The Chinese stand to lose out the most from nearly 6 weeks of non-functioning economy, so why would they devise a lab stunt like that, set it on their own people and then watch it kill 3000 of their people? Your flux capacitors need recalibrating, methinks.
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Quote from: Rocker on Monday 02-Mar-2020, 12:59*
Seems like an overreaction to a virus that is according to statistics less dangerous than seasonal flu.

Yes, it is worse than the flu: busting the coronavirus myths

It also depends on your age.



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Given that graph starts to kick in for 50+ ages, I'd suggest most of our support is at an increased level of risk! :)
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I've been looking for some stats that won't offend political persuasions, so opted for those from Johns Hopkins University Hospital in the US - still quite conservative, but away from UK-base reporting and from country that keeps good stats on these aspects of medical importance.

Even though its headline (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu) suggests that "As of Feb. 28, 2020, the flu is showing much more of an impact on Americans than COVID-19", its owns stats reveal:-

Covid 19 worldwide - death rate 0.03/infection (based on 3000 deaths and ~85,000 cases)
Flu cases in US - death rate: 0.0013/infection (based on 61,000 deaths and ~45m cases)

So ~ 25 times more deadly compared to US flu; estimates so far suggest death rates between 2-5% - much high than these, so probably not an over-reaction - we're just at the start of the epidemic. let alone the potential pandemic.

But don't worry, Rocker Boris says all you have to do is sing happy birthday a few times whilst washing your hands and the sky won't fall on your head.
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Quote from: Bolly-Quin on Monday 02-Mar-2020, 14:40*
I've been looking for some stats that won't offend political persuasions, so opted for those from Johns Hopkins University Hospital in the US - still quite conservative, but away from UK-base reporting and from country that keeps good stats on these aspects of medical importance.

Even though its headline (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu) suggests that "As of Feb. 28, 2020, the flu is showing much more of an impact on Americans than COVID-19", its owns stats reveal:-

Covid 19 worldwide - death rate 0.03/infection (based on 3000 deaths and ~85,000 cases)
Flu cases in US - death rate: 0.0013/infection (based on 61,000 deaths and ~45m cases)

So ~ 25 times more deadly compared to US flu; estimates so far suggest death rates between 2-5% - much high than these, so probably not an over-reaction - we're just at the start of the epidemic. let alone the potential pandemic.

But don't worry, Rocker Boris says all you have to do is sing happy birthday a few times whilst washing your hands and the sky won't fall on your head.

As with all stats, there re several ways to interpret them. For example, the number of cases could suggest that it's much harder to catch. Similarly, what would the stats be for malaria, for example? Or SARS? Or MRSA?

The fatality rate needs to be taken into account with the cantagion rate. Also, what other factors were involved? Existing complications? What are the fatality rates across age bands etc?

It's all too easy to say it's worse than/not as bad as flu. It's like saying aeroplanes are not as bad as roof tiles.
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The main problem is that no one has any immunity as new bug and the flu jab does not help either. It’s not dangerous but it could shut offices and shops
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It is worse than normal flu which you can protect yourself from by having a flu jab. A lot of vulnerable people have the option of this. There is no vaccine for corona virus as yet. If we take no precautions and a quarter of the population contract the virus the mere 3% death rate would be around 450,000. Those of you who think there is an over reaction are obviously ok with being partly responsible for killing people because you don’t think it’s necessary to take any precautions because YOU think you will be alright.
     I’m sure the medical experts know what they are doing and are advising governments accordingly.
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I think you're right Major West.   Getting on for half a million deaths is unthinkable.  However, as I understand it, viruses are simple stands of DNA in a protective shell, and have the ability to mutate relatively easily.  That's why the flu strain tends to be different each winter.  If (and it's a big if) the current coronavirus mutates into a more virulent form, then the number of casualties could quickly escalate.  That's one of the major risk identified by the World Health Organisation.  If you think the WHO are being alarmist, google 'Spanish Flu'.  Let's hope, come the warmer weather, it dies out, as happened with SARS.
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Quote from: Mayor West on Monday 02-Mar-2020, 18:23*
It is worse than normal flu which you can protect yourself from by having a flu jab. A lot of vulnerable people have the option of this. There is no vaccine for corona virus as yet. If we take no precautions and a quarter of the population contract the virus the mere 3% death rate would be around 450,000. Those of you who think there is an over reaction are obviously ok with being partly responsible for killing people because you don’t think it’s necessary to take any precautions because YOU think you will be alright.
     I’m sure the medical experts know what they are doing and are advising governments accordingly.

"...obviously ok with being partly responsible for killing people..."

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

I'm "vulnerable" apparently, and I get a flu jab every year. I still get flu occasionally. And since there's no vaccination (yet) for corona, presumably you blame anyone who's contracted it for the deaths that have occurred so far?

People making hysterical statements is what causes these situations to bring the country to its knees.
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People who think the press might sensationalise something are responsible for other people's deaths. You read a lot of odd stuff on these boards bit that's up there
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Quote from: Quinky on Monday 02-Mar-2020, 21:48*
"...obviously ok with being partly responsible for killing people..."

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

I'm "vulnerable" apparently, and I get a flu jab every year. I still get flu occasionally. And since there's no vaccination (yet) for corona, presumably you blame anyone who's contracted it for the deaths that have occurred so far?

People making hysterical statements is what causes these situations to bring the country to its knees.

Actually I'm fairly sure that the health services being swamped because of critical mass of people getting ill - many of them critically - is what causes these situations bringing the country to its knees.

Someone making a silly statement on the Quins board isn't going to make a bit of difference either way.

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