It's funny, I feel the opposite.
Aggrieved for Brownie, who's consistently proven the doubters wrong and always stood up, even when the rest of the side were cowering.
Care had enough chances and proved that he just wasn't reliable in an England shirt. Too many costly errors - the moments of brilliance didn't outweigh them.
In Robshaw's case, it feels like more of a tidy succession story - Curry et al have come through and taken on the baton and evidently are the rightful heirs.
But, like you, I love all 3 in a Quins shirt. Selfishly, very good news for us that it seems that's what they'll be wearing when next season kicks off.
The two aren't mutually exclusive for me. Youngs has to be one of the most overrated England players of the modern era.
And yet - they were all part of a side that self destructed in 2015 and part of a side that went backwards after a strong start under Jones and felt stale.
Love them all but barring Care (mainly because we’ve only just chosen his replacement with 3 matches to go - if one of the others had established themselves I’d feel less aggrieved on his behalf) I feel no particular need to claim they should be playing for England now.
That may be so but the team was demonstrably performing better before they (amongst others) were dropped. Objectively in terms of results, and I think most fans would say in terms of subjective performance as well.
If Jones' conclusion from that data is that the team wasn't working before (despite a lengthy win streak, successful tours away, winning every autumn match and 2 6Ns) and that it now is working better without the "experienced" players (though he still has many), then I am deeply worried about his ability to infer from basic information
I'm just going on what he says. And last week was infinitely better than the autumn and 6 nations.
Did you actually watch the AIs or the 6 Nations?
England's AI performance was eclipsed a bit by Ireland's, but with a very green pack they scraped a win against South Africa and then went on to have the better of New Zealand for much of the game, only losing to a very debatable offside call, and went on to hammer Australia.
In the 6 Nations, the win against Ireland in Dublin was the best England performance in years, and rattled Ireland so much that the wheels fell off the rest of their 6 Nations campaign. The France game was also pretty good.
To my mind, the loss to Wales was a direct result of the changes that Eddie has made in personnel. Wales had a proper fullback (unlike Ireland or France), and once they had absorbed the early England blitzkrieg, could start to play their game. England had no-one on the bench who was capable of changing the style of play or exploiting the game as it opened up. Care used to fulfil that role; it's not clear who does it now, and there certainly wasn't anyone who could to it in that game.
Likewise, England have now conceded 2 or 3 tries to Wales as a direct result of not having a proper fullback.
The Scotland game had very much an end-of-term feeling in the stadium. By that point, the result didn't really matter, and the way it played out on the pitch looked that way.
Sunday's game was an unexpectedly good performance from England with strong debuts from Ludlam and Heinz, but we can't read too much into it. In particular, it was Wales's first game of the season, which with a Gatland team is almost always their weakest performance because he doesn't taper their training until very late. Saturday's game and the Ireland game will give us a much better indication of where we are.
Erm yes I do. I've been at all the AI's for the past seven years and I was unfortunate enough to be at the Scotland game this 6 nations and watched the others on TV.
Thanks for asking.
In that case, how on earth did you conclude that Sunday's game was "infinitely better than the autumn or the 6 nations"?