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Rugby => ComeAllWithin Board => Topic started by: Wine Prone Cowboy on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 12:42*

Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Bolly-Quin on Monday 26-Nov-2018, 22:17*
Gazza?
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Sunday 25-Nov-2018, 13:30*
drip.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: InsertQuinsPunHere on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 14:05*
Pre-Snowflake me.

Rain? Cloud?
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 10:46*
None of yer namby pamby ring pulls in them days.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Brown Bottle on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 10:18*
Watney's Party 7. Those were the days.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 09:50*
Pre-Snowflake me.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 09:39*
Oh dont they do that in bottles for you then?

Hipsters only drink from cans mate, you're a bit out of date.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Cookie on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 09:37*
And then someone will complain that they can't have a taster of the Special Brew and White Lightning to decide which can they'd like first.

Special Brew, or Trampagne as it's also known.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Quicker Quin on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 09:31*
It'll end up being one of those hipster benches, covered in graffiti on the legs with a little fringe of pointless moss hanging off the front.

Could it be a Wetherspoons bench?
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 09:12*
Oh dont they do that in bottles for you then?
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 09:07*
And then someone will complain that they can't have a taster of the Special Brew and White Lightning to decide which can they'd like first.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 09:05*
Oohhh Beer Snob!
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 08:48*
It'll end up being one of those hipster benches, covered in graffiti on the legs with a little fringe of pointless moss hanging off the front.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Everyone’s a Quinner on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 07:24*
If we let a representative from Wasps join us, he would get the day,date, time, or place wrong!

Too bleeding right 😆
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Quicker Quin on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 07:08*
And then which month, week, day and time we agree on to hold such discussions once having agreed a which park and which park bench to hold this on

If we let a representative from Wasps join us, he would get the day,date, time, or place wrong!
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Everyone’s a Quinner on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 04:55*
And then which month, week, day and time we agree on to hold such discussions once having agreed a which park and which park bench to hold this on
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Quinten Poulsen on Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 00:01*
Getting people to agree on which bench in which park would be a minor miracle.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Mayor West on Wednesday 21-Nov-2018, 21:19*
I think we should all meet up on a park bench and discuss beer in more detail and with samples sometime soon.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Wednesday 21-Nov-2018, 20:44*
Bottled beers? I find them too fizzy generally. I prefer canned beers usually ie Abbots, OSH, HobGoblin.....

And they're cheaper.

Or there’s Tennants, Hoffmeister or Double D.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Wednesday 21-Nov-2018, 18:56*
Bottled beers? I find them too fizzy generally. I prefer canned beers usually ie Abbots, OSH, HobGoblin.....

And they're cheaper.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: InsertQuinsPunHere on Tuesday 20-Nov-2018, 19:24*
Thing that's gets me about people tasting a beer, I don't think I have ever seen anyone turn around and say "Ohh no, I don't like that". Just buy a beer and drink it.

I have done this on many an occasion. Or even if I do like the taste, decided that I'm in a hoppy mood rather than a malty mood.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Mayor West on Tuesday 20-Nov-2018, 18:14*
I will try a big smoke next time I'm in there and hope, as it's their own, that I can have more than one pint of it.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: honkytonk on Tuesday 20-Nov-2018, 18:11*
Thing that's gets me about people tasting a beer, I don't think I have ever seen anyone turn around and say "Ohh no, I don't like that". Just buy a beer and drink it. 
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: InsertQuinsPunHere on Tuesday 20-Nov-2018, 17:57*
... their own beer, brewed out of The Antelope in Surbiton...

Ah, that's a good pub, I didn't know they were the same company.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Tuesday 20-Nov-2018, 11:16*
They do indeed have standard supply on taps, albeit they are more craft ales. Big Smoke is their own beer, brewed out of The Antelope in Surbiton. I quite like it. They also have plenty of bottled ales in the fridge.

I can count on the fingers of one hand how many bad pints I've had in there, so I always take a recommendation for a 'light, pale ale'. The staff are pretty knowledgable. I will say that this whole tasting thing gets on my wick. Especially on rugby days when they should dispense with it.

I knew we'd agree eventually. Normally I can happily taste a couple to find something right, rugby days - pick a pint and drink it. If you don't like it, buy something else for the 2nd one, and the 3rd, and 4th...etc.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Cookie on Tuesday 20-Nov-2018, 10:32*
They don't seem to have a standard range of beer that is always available like maybe TwIckenham fine ales range which I know I like and they shouldn't run out of. They have a few lagers  and ciders all the time which is ok if you want those things.


Sadly the TFA link for a consistent 'running' beer won't come off.  The Sussex certainly support TFA  but they also own a brewery - 'Big Smoke' I think, so they are unlikely to grant TFA first dibs as a permanent fixture.

They do indeed have standard supply on taps, albeit they are more craft ales. Big Smoke is their own beer, brewed out of The Antelope in Surbiton. I quite like it. They also have plenty of bottled ales in the fridge.

I can count on the fingers of one hand how many bad pints I've had in there, so I always take a recommendation for a 'light, pale ale'. The staff are pretty knowledgable. I will say that this whole tasting thing gets on my wick. Especially on rugby days when they should dispense with it.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Cookie on Tuesday 20-Nov-2018, 10:26*
Janey's pizzas at the Bloomsbury are most excellent!

I think Pete might say they're 'Pete's pizzas".........
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Tuesday 20-Nov-2018, 09:29*
Is that for a discount or to get thrown out? :)
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Quicker Quin on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 22:33*
The problem I have with the Sussex is that you choose your beer from the vast selection from which they will happily give you a taster. You think, this is a fine pint I'll have another, and nearly every time you ask for another its gone. Then you spend the next half a pint getting over the taste difference only to find you can't get a second pint of that either. They don't seem to have a standard range of beer that is always available like maybe TwIckenham fine ales range which I know I like and they shouldn't run out of. They have a few lagers  and ciders all the time which is ok if you want those things.

Perhaps you should use a Wetherspoons pub, they always have a good selection of well kept, reasonably priced beers. Food is excellent, too!

The William Webb Ellis in Twickenham, almost opposite the Police Station is a good venue.

Mention my name.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Stoopendous on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 20:28*
 They don't seem to have a standard range of beer that is always available like maybe TwIckenham fine ales range which I know I like and they shouldn't run out of. They have a few lagers  and ciders all the time which is ok if you want those things.
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Sadly the TFA link for a consistent 'running' beer won't come off.  The Sussex certainly support TFA  but they also own a brewery - 'Big Smoke' I think, so they are unlikely to grant TFA first dibs as a permanent fixture.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Mayor West on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 17:26*
The problem I have with the Sussex is that you choose your beer from the vast selection from which they will happily give you a taster. You think, this is a fine pint I'll have another, and nearly every time you ask for another its gone. Then you spend the next half a pint getting over the taste difference only to find you can't get a second pint of that either. They don't seem to have a standard range of beer that is always available like maybe TwIckenham fine ales range which I know I like and they shouldn't run out of. They have a few lagers  and ciders all the time which is ok if you want those things.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: RodneyRegis on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 17:09*
or the Ailsa Tavern (close to the ground - but less busy as not many people know how to get there)

It's not THAT near...
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 16:49*
Janey's pizzas at the Bloomsbury are most excellent!
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 16:14*
I understood you Blucher; for what that's worth.

And that's why I married you.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: never sleep on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 16:05*
On topic... I'm surprised no-one has suggested the Turks Head yet.
or the Ailsa Tavern (close to the ground - but less busy as not many people know how to get there)
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Quinten Poulsen on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 14:44*
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Where do i say any of those things are bad?

You've slagged off hipsters plenty of times! It was a natural reaction to think you were being critical again.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: InsertQuinsPunHere on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 14:11*
On topic... I'm surprised no-one has suggested the Turks Head yet.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: InsertQuinsPunHere on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 13:26*
It literally didn't. It said....

"I genuinely don't get the tweedy comments about the Sussex -- not that I'm not fond of a "pigs snouts old snot peculiar" ale cliche and taking the mick -- but ale in the Sussex is a hipster thing not an old man thing and the staff are all emos with tonnes of tattoos and piercings and nail varnish (but not the girls) and they play all their music on vinyl because that's what you do if you're 20."

That's singing its praises. Where do i say any of those things are bad? It was in answer to the poster who always claims it's "tweedy" "string-backed driving glove" old man pub. It's not.

(Disclaimer: There are some very dull Camra "mines a pint of pig's anus" bores in there but they're too busy wishing Jeremy Clarkson was prime minister to ruin the boozer.)

I understood you Blucher; for what that's worth.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: M3quin on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 12:48*
Try the Bloomsbury.  Little bit further to walk, but easy through Andover Rd and Mereway to back of Stoop.  You can get served.  Just leave enough time if you want food.  Can be 1 hour wait on International days, but good pub food and Pizzas that won't leave you hungry.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 10:28*
Maybe if your post didn’t clearly appear to denigrate the pub, there wouldn’t have been any confusion.

It literally didn't. It said....

"I genuinely don't get the tweedy comments about the Sussex -- not that I'm not fond of a "pigs snouts old snot peculiar" ale cliche and taking the mick -- but ale in the Sussex is a hipster thing not an old man thing and the staff are all emos with tonnes of tattoos and piercings and nail varnish (but not the girls) and they play all their music on vinyl because that's what you do if you're 20."

That's singing its praises. Where do i say any of those things are bad? It was in answer to the poster who always claims it's "tweedy" "string-backed driving glove" old man pub. It's not.

(Disclaimer: There are some very dull Camra "mines a pint of pig's anus" bores in there but they're too busy wishing Jeremy Clarkson was prime minister to ruin the boozer.)
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Cookie on Monday 19-Nov-2018, 09:57*
I think you deliberately misunderstand every post I write.

The whole point is how good the Sussex is.

All those things are reasons it’s good.

You do get some boring old fashioned crusty Camra bores in there - but mainly it’s younger and much more interesting.



Maybe if your post didn’t clearly appear to denigrate the pub, there wouldn’t have been any confusion.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: You Shall Not Pass on Sunday 18-Nov-2018, 20:44*
My favourite pub is the Sussex, but do appreciate the 15% Quins membership discount in the Blucher, especially because you don't need to buy food. Also the Bloomsbury shows the rugby and gets a great atmosphere.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Sunday 18-Nov-2018, 17:22*
I love my post match entertainment. Usually Solstice Services tbh....
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Sunday 18-Nov-2018, 09:32*
One small additional point - there isn’t a small outside bar at the Sussex.

Great beer just a long wait to get one yesterday.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Quicker Quin on Sunday 18-Nov-2018, 08:41*

The whole point is how good the Sussex is.

You do get some boring old fashioned crusty Camra bores in there


Oh! That can't be true, can it shirley?
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Sunday 18-Nov-2018, 04:49*
What an amusing pile of horse dung this review of the Sussex is. It is comfortably the best pub in Twickenham for ale and cider as well as not being massively overpriced like the Albert and Blucher. Used to be hard to get served as it was so busy, but they’ve sorted that with a small outside bar. Not sure what the problem with the vinyl is, but it’s an eclectic selection.

As SiB says, the Prince of Wales is another excellent option. More roomy as it’s a short walk out of town, but AJ’s Kitchen has the best food around. Also up that way and worth a visit is The Rifleman on Fourth Cross Road. Good beer and the rugby will take precedence over football (they send football viewers round the corner to the PoW).

I think you deliberately misunderstand every post I write.

The whole point is how good the Sussex is.

All those things are reasons it’s good.

You do get some boring old fashioned crusty Camra bores in there - but mainly it’s younger and much more interesting.

Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Quinten Poulsen on Saturday 17-Nov-2018, 19:56*
Agree. I much prefer the Sussex to the Blucher and the difference in pricing is an added bonus.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: RodneyRegis on Saturday 17-Nov-2018, 18:49*
What an amusing pile of horse dung this review of the Sussex is. It is comfortably the best pub in Twickenham for ale and cider as well as not being massively overpriced like the Albert and Blucher. Used to be hard to get served as it was so busy, but they’ve sorted that with a small outside bar. Not sure what the problem with the vinyl is, but it’s an eclectic selection.

As SiB says, the Prince of Wales is another excellent option. More roomy as it’s a short walk out of town, but AJ’s Kitchen has the best food around. Also up that way and worth a visit is The Rifleman on Fourth Cross Road. Good beer and the rugby will take precedence over football (they send football viewers round the corner to the PoW).

Yeah, Sussex is a fantastic pub.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Cookie on Saturday 17-Nov-2018, 11:10*
I genuinely don't get the tweedy comments about the Sussex -- not that I'm not fond of a "pigs snouts old snot peculiar" ale cliche and taking the mick -- but ale in the Sussex is a hipster thing not an old man thing and the staff are all emos with tonnes of tattoos and piercings and nail varnish (but not the girls) and they play all their music on vinyl because that's what you do if you're 20.

It's generally full of drunk old musicians and students.

Also - the Webb Ellis will be absolutely rammed from front to back and has bouncers outside. You will need shoplifted clothing from JD Sports and a knife to get in as well.

What an amusing pile of horse dung this review of the Sussex is. It is comfortably the best pub in Twickenham for ale and cider as well as not being massively overpriced like the Albert and Blucher. Used to be hard to get served as it was so busy, but they’ve sorted that with a small outside bar. Not sure what the problem with the vinyl is, but it’s an eclectic selection.

As SiB says, the Prince of Wales is another excellent option. More roomy as it’s a short walk out of town, but AJ’s Kitchen has the best food around. Also up that way and worth a visit is The Rifleman on Fourth Cross Road. Good beer and the rugby will take precedence over football (they send football viewers round the corner to the PoW).
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Wine Prone Cowboy on Saturday 17-Nov-2018, 10:43*
Thanks for all the suggestions. Think we'll head for the options on the green
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: SiB on Saturday 17-Nov-2018, 08:25*
Went to the Prince Albert after last weeks game room inside and out with big screens showing the rugby
And if you want to walk a little further the Prince of Wales should have it on big screen and will have a bit of room for a larger group
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 17:15*
Ok I’m flailing Rodney, whatever makes you happy.

Didn’t know the names - but absolutely happy to admit I made an bottom of myself on that. Pub was still utterly terrible.

But when does a pubs name denote how relevant it is to an area?

Maybe the Kings Arms should only be used by royalty or the Nags head only by horses.

Webb Ellis = relevant name but only since the invention of rugby so how does that work?. Twickenham has been here a lot longer than rugby.

S&M = relevant name (didn’t know) but wouldn’t have been before 1906. Pub there since 1715 so was it not relevant before?

Blucher = was a massive hero to the British at the time the pub was named, so I’m not sure how it fits your criteria since rugby didn’t exist for 100 years. But not relevant to rugby no.

Likewise Sussex, White Swan, Fox

So are they less relevant because they aren’t called after rugby? They were all there before anyone invented rugby and way before it came to Twickenham.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: RodneyRegis on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 16:37*
But which name has more of a link to the local area?

Stokes & Moncrief
Prince Blucher

Not which pub has more of a link.

You're just flailing because you thought S&M were random names to sound a bit zany.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 16:14*
What does Waterloo have to do with the local area? Unless you mean you can hop on a train there in about 25 mins from Twickers?

Mate, the pub has been there since 1815.

Rugby School football didn't start to be played even in Rugby School alone until the mid 1820s.

The first rugby at Twickenham was 1909.

Not sure you can claim things aren't local if they're not named after something that wasn't associated with the area until 100 years after they were built.

And anyway the poster said it had "more of a link" to the local area. Not "to do with". Pretty sure being a local pub in a local area for more than 200 years gives you pretty good links.

I dont even bloody drink there.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: RodneyRegis on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 15:34*
What does Waterloo have to do with the local area? Unless you mean you can hop on a train there in about 25 mins from Twickers?
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 15:08*
Name a pub after a Prussian war hero, that’s fine.

Name it after the captains of the teams in the first rugby international and it’s hipster.

But which name has more of a link to the local area?

Sadly you've kicked this one straight into touch.

Yes I take the point on where the names come from, hadn't realised - the pub however was terrible, soulless and depressing and existed solely to host parties of people going to England internationals -- it was otherwise totally empty. A shame, because there's been a pub there since the 1700s.
Think Simon Shaw behind the equally unappealing M Bar that's opened opposite Twickenham station.

The Blucher, yes, is named after the Prussian general who helped Wellington win the Battle of Waterloo. I believe it's the only pub in the UK with the name. But either way it's been there since 1815 and has always been called that. So actually it's got more of a "link to the local area" than rugby, HQ, the Stoop or Mr Webb Ellis.

Oh and The Sussex has been called The Sussex since 1837.

Don't thank me - thank the Twickenham museum.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: never sleep on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 14:59*
The Blucher opened in 1815 - Prince Blucher was a pretty big deal around about that year.  Probably more so than Webb Ellis.  He was only 9 years old at the time and may not even have started at Rugby School.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Yareet on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 14:42*

On a personal note -- the death of every pub with ludicrous hipster names like Stokes and Moncrieff must be celebrated enthusiastically.

Name a pub after a Prussian war hero, that’s fine.

Name it after the captains of the teams in the first rugby international and it’s hipster.

But which name has more of a link to the local area?



Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 14:12*
I genuinely don't get the tweedy comments about the Sussex -- not that I'm not fond of a "pigs snouts old snot peculiar" ale cliche and taking the mick -- but ale in the Sussex is a hipster thing not an old man thing and the staff are all emos with tonnes of tattoos and piercings and nail varnish (but not the girls) and they play all their music on vinyl because that's what you do if you're 20.

It's generally full of drunk old musicians and students.

Also - the Webb Ellis will be absolutely rammed from front to back and has bouncers outside. You will need shoplifted clothing from JD Sports and a knife to get in as well.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: never sleep on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 13:54*
If you go to the Sussex - avoid the Gin - it can give you a hangover.

We went there after visiting the Webb Ellis, Three Kings and Taste of Raj after having a few beers before, during and after the Eng v SA match and we didn't feel too chipper on the Sunday.

But, I agree with BQ - stick to the Green.  Far less crowded on match days.  Good options too - Prince of Albert/Wales/Sussex and Blucher all within walking and 3 curry houses in between.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Quicker Quin on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 13:28*
Sussex have a marquee up to show the England games, they may well therefore show the Ireland match. Blucher has screens and may not be as rammed as normal post Japan coz assume lots of the crowd won't be England regulars. The Albert will definitely be showing it because the boss is Irish. Don't know about in town coz usually stick up my end (as it were) to avoid the crowds.



The bouncers at The Sussex won't let you in unless you have string-back driving gloves and a tweed jacket. (paging Mr Blucher quin)

The Blucher is O.K. Nice pint of London Pride.

Your best bet is The William Webb Ellis in town, almost opposite the police station. Good food and well kept reasonably priced ales.
Title: Re: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Gone on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 13:18*
Any tips? I'm looking for somewhere to take a group and watch the Ireland game.

I'm at bit out of touch. Didn't know Stokes & Moncrieff had changed but that's on my list of possibles...

Twickenham Fine Ales pre game obviously

Sussex have a marquee up to show the England games, they may well therefore show the Ireland match. Blucher has screens and may not be as rammed as normal post Japan coz assume lots of the crowd won't be England regulars. The Albert will definitely be showing it because the boss is Irish. Don't know about in town coz usually stick up my end (as it were) to avoid the crowds.

On a personal note -- the death of every pub with ludicrous hipster names like Stokes and Moncrieff must be celebrated enthusiastically. It seemed to be an utterly soulless place that was permanently empty except when it was there for "entertaining clients at the rugby". Just a personal view obvs.
Title: OT: Suggestions for post England boozers
Post by: Wine Prone Cowboy on Friday 16-Nov-2018, 12:42*
Any tips? I'm looking for somewhere to take a group and watch the Ireland game.

I'm at bit out of touch. Didn't know Stokes & Moncrieff had changed but that's on my list of possibles...

Twickenham Fine Ales pre game obviously