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East Sussex Chris

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Looking Ominous
« on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 09:42* »
If Soccer clubs are becoming increasingly concerned about no fans for 6-12 months, then it looks like a long time before we get back to watching rugby. Will Rugby carry on playing or will they have to take a lengthy sabbatical as TV money won't be enough for clubs to survive.

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deadlyfrom5yardsout

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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 09:55* »
I refer the Honourable Gentleman to my earlier suggestion of some sort of Subscription Streaming service.

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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 09:58* »
Dont worry, Vaccine by Sept, Stoop packed out in Oct!!!
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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 12:21* »
Dont worry, Vaccine by Sept, Stoop packed out in Oct!!!

Wake up from dream in November!
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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 12:23* »
I think we will be back by October even without the mystical vaccine.
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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 12:29* »
Being serious, I read something along the lines of staggered returns for attendances. which would make sense.  slightly easier for rugby as the attendances are smaller than in football.  Its why lower league football was mentioned as having fans before Prem Games

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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 13:36* »
Let ask a simple question: Are people going to ‘want’ to go to any mass gatherings until there is a proven vaccine?

 Personally, I doubt it as as people have been conditioned, over the past few months, to avoid and basically fear social contact, and probably quite rightly as the ONS have realised a figure of 55k deaths over and above normal levels since March.....

The reports on a potential vaccine seem encouraging with some reports suggesting there could be something ready in September 2020, but I wouldn’t want to be one of the first people taking it as if it was that easy to get a viable vaccine this quickly why have others taken years to get right and approved as safe??

I really hope I am wrong but I think that we will be lucky to get back to the stoop before September 2021.
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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 13:39* »
I am a little surprised that the club isn't coming up with options for membership renewals for next season.
Next season is likely to be impacted in some way - maybe small - maybe big. Impossible to tell.
My wife has a long term health condition and we will therefore need to be cautious.
So, renewing all of our memberships for the whole year is something that I have to consider carefully as, even if there is minor impact, there may be a scenario where we can't attend the games anyway and the money is wasted.
If I buy season tickets and there is a major impact to next season, then the club will need to refund.  This doesn't help anyone - me or the club.
On the other hand, I want to reserve my seat.  Maybe it will be safe to attend the second half of the season and I will want a mini season ticket.
Basically, I want to remain a member and support Quins, but I may need to take a year off coming to the Stoop.
So, I would have thought the the club would do additional sorts of membership options to give some flexibility.
e.g.
Pay £80 - get discount for seats; discount on shirt; gift for mighty quins member; etc; 
Pay £100 - get all of the above plus;  entrance to a-games;six nations ballot; etc; 
Pay £120 - get all of the above, but reserve your seat

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LA Old Tim(e) Quin

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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 15:27* »
I was fortunate enough to have been elected as a member (proposed and seconded by current members) during the 1989 AGM. My status as a non player, and living further than 40 miles from the club was as a 'Country Member' this gave me full membership privileges, like a player. After 1995 my privileges changed, naturally, as I didn't take up a season ticket. I still paid my annual subs and got ticket discount's, entry to ballot etc, enough to remain a member and feel include. 6 years ago the club had a shake up and 'Country Membership' was discontinued, this kindly coincided with me retiring so I was pleased to take up a season ticket. Therefore maybe, as has been suggested, a reversion to 'old' style membership options are the way to go in the future. One word of warning though, all correspondence to me from the club refers to my " 6 years of membership" only recognising my season ticket totally ignoring the 30 years I have paid an annual subscription.

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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 16:11* »
Let ask a simple question: Are people going to ‘want’ to go to any mass gatherings until there is a proven vaccine?

 Personally, I doubt it as as people have been conditioned, over the past few months, to avoid and basically fear social contact, and probably quite rightly as the ONS have realised a figure of 55k deaths over and above normal levels since March.....

The reports on a potential vaccine seem encouraging with some reports suggesting there could be something ready in September 2020, but I wouldn’t want to be one of the first people taking it as if it was that easy to get a viable vaccine this quickly why have others taken years to get right and approved as safe??

I really hope I am wrong but I think that we will be lucky to get back to the stoop before September 2021.

I've said this before but if we're not back until September 2021 we probably won't have much of a game of rugby to support.
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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 16:13* »
I am a little surprised that the club isn't coming up with options for membership renewals for next season.
Next season is likely to be impacted in some way - maybe small - maybe big. Impossible to tell.
My wife has a long term health condition and we will therefore need to be cautious.
So, renewing all of our memberships for the whole year is something that I have to consider carefully as, even if there is minor impact, there may be a scenario where we can't attend the games anyway and the money is wasted.


In the scenarios that you paint, I would have thought your best bet would be to sit on your hands.

Which is what I intend to do.

never sleep

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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 16:25* »
In the scenarios that you paint, I would have thought your best bet would be to sit on your hands.

Which is what I intend to do.
I agree - but, I don't want someone else to buy my seat.  I sit next to friends - so it would be annoying if I couldn't get my existing seat as someone else is in it.
But, it is not worth paying lots of money to prevent it.  I would, however, be willing to pay a modest amount to prevent it being available to other season ticket holders.
I like the idea of "country member".  It is a common at other clubs.  At Richmond, you can become member without having a season ticket.  In fact, membership allows you to buy a season ticket.

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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 16:38* »
Quote from: LA Old Tim(e) Quin
I was fortunate enough to have been ... a 'Country Member'

Yes, I remember!
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LA Old Tim(e) Quin

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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 17:16* »
In the event that the sport, therefore the professional clubs, were closed down for a considerable time I am sure that membership incentives will be closely looked at by clubs. It might be that to remain solvent they will need to compete with other forward thinking sporting clubs, and revert to 'old style'  membership packages to retain/attract supporters. What Never Sleep suggests seems a good common sense approach, a small concession by the club to retain his support by allowing him to retain his seat at a reduced membership option rather than loose him altogether.

MaidstoneQuin

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Re: Looking Ominous
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 19-May-2020, 19:30* »
Until theres a vaccine, which lets be honest will probably be another 6 months away (and thats generous considering we didnt even develop one for SARS), any form of entertaiment wether thats sport or a music venue will be irresponsible to open.

Perhaps advances in near instant covid tests will help, as in theory you could do tests before entering a venue might help, but not sure thats possible currently.

Watching the Bundesliga with empty stadiums felt a bit like watching a kickaround at GOALs. Frankly no sport should even consider returning until the new year. Scrap all cup competitions, and a compact season between Jan-May could be possible, but even then thats wishful thinking. Putting profits before lives is fairly poor, plus lets face it who wants to go to a half empty stadium, 2 meters apart from everyone wearing face masks?

 

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